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			<title><![CDATA[ Worth of the ECF&#39;s ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/1181/t/Worth-of-the-ECF-39-s.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I was recently chatting with some textual criticism folk about John 1:18 and the variant readings of &quot;theos&quot; &amp; &quot;huios.&quot;
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I brought up the huge support from the ECF&#39;s for &quot;huios&quot; and also that &quot;monogenes theos&quot; was virtually never seen in the ANF except by
Arians.
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However, these scholars seemed to discount the weight of the testimony from the ECF&#39;s because there is no &quot;critical edition&quot; of their writings.
In other... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:59:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ figures of speech ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/1144/t/figures-of-speech.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Is there any definite means to tell if something is a figure of speech in the Scriptures, such as hyperbole etc???
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For instance, I think Jesus was using hyperbole when He said, if you have the faith... you can move a mountain...
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I believe the mountain only symbolizes and is not to be taken literally.
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any thoughts?
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Brian
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:55:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Friendless Christians? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m not sure if this is posted under the correct thread, if not, please move it to where it belongs.
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I would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on the following statement, from a Biblical perspective:
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  Here&#39;s a question, and, btw, i&#39;m not going to name any names :
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  How can it be that there are certain professing Christians, who claim to know Jesus and can quote scripture freely, and also... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:57:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The Faithfulness of the ECFs ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I have a brief question about the PFRS approach in regards to the ECF writings. <br><br>Tim stated that: <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Let me remind you that the ECF writings are the LEAST important aspect of our appraoch, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"> and that they were frequently in error. </span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (VincentLerins)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:57:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Pristine Faith. ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Dear Roger:<br><br>In the Introduction to PFRS Philosophy and Methodology by Tim Warner, it is stated, <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Each local church, founded and discipled by the Apostles, was an independent custodian of the pristine Faith  the &quot;Apostles' doctrine&quot; (Acts 2:42).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Acts 2:42</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> And they continued... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Charles Baker)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:09:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Doctrine and authority ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking the other day about how we Christians often say, &quot;The Bible teaches. . .&quot; We often criticize other Christians of &quot;not believing the Bible.&quot; We say that Scripture is so simple that children can understand it.<br><br>But I wanted to make an observation that is interesting; whether it is helpful I don't know. While I agree that the Bible, in general, is simple enough that children may understand it; and while a lot of Christians may actually hold misguided or... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:11:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Bodily Resurrection ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ In the PFRS section that summarizes the docternal beliefs of the PFRS membership there are a couple of items I would like to discuss.<br><br>1.  Bodily Resurrection<br>2. Perseverance of the Saints<br><br>I would like the discussion to begin with open comments from the membership and anyone else interested in this topic.  Please reference you inputs with Biblical or relevant extra-Biblical citations.  <br><br>Thanks for participating.  I am looking forward to your responses.<br><br>JV ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:08:35 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Church Fathers and the Seven Churches of Revelation ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hello Everyone,<br><br>How do we account for the fact that the Seven Churches in the book of Revelation already had many doctrinal criticisms by Jesus?    <br><br>For instance; <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Church at Pergamos</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>&quot;But I have a few things against you, <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:42:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Unity and the Early Church ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Roger, Tim and others,<br><br>There is an interesting discussion taking place (that I started) on another message board pertaining to &quot;Unity and the Early Church.&quot;  The arguments that I have posed have been challenged, and, to be honest, my views may be changing slightly.  Let me know what you think.  Here it is:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wvss.com/forumc/viewtopic.php?t=1173">www.wvss.com/forumc/viewtopic.php?t=1173</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:14:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ PFRS policy on the apocrypha ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ What is the pfrs stand with regard to the apocryhpal/deutero-canonical books, especially with regard to the common Roman Catholic assertion that most of the ECFs believed them to be scripture?<br><br>in Christ,<br>Ely ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:23:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Allegorical Methods ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <br><br>I have been studying the Roman Catholicism lesson from geocities.com/biblestudying and it has been a very interesting journey. I checked the references citied as well as other sources. I have found that some of the assumptions and historical connections are unfounded and require leaps of faith, but the one point I do question is the use of allegory. <br><br>I think Origen has taken a bad wrap for his speculations as well as the Alexandrian school. On a few points, Origen and the... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (VincentLerins)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:20:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Bible as a Foundation for Faith not Fact ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ A friend referred me to this website and it is a great resource.  Two excerpts from the PFRS Methodology interested me:<br>#1: &quot;The New Testament canon is fixed and unchangeable, and therefore reliable.&quot;<br>#2: &quot;The grammatical - historical method allows us to deduce how the intended audience would have interpreted the text.&quot;<br><br>From these two statements and from my own point of view, I see the Bible as the means of transmitting a particular message from God.  The... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Lucas)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:53:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Dispensation and the Apostle John ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ A verse in Second John caught my attention the other day:<br><br>&quot;No one has God, who goes too far and fails to stay by the teaching of Christ. Whoever stays by this teaching has the Father and the Son.<br>&quot; 2 John 1:9 (Williams)<br><br>I noticed that this epistle was written very late (about A.D. 96) after the death of the Apostle Paul.<br><br>Also what is interesting is that the Apostle John oversaw the churches that the Apostle Paul established, so he would have been well aware... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Ben)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:30:16 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Ante-Nicene Writers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I was told once that the lives (moral character) of the Ante-Nicene writers was not exemplary and therefore what they wrote could not be trusted.<br><br>Even though it seems that &quot;some&quot; may be doubtful, it can not be said of them all.<br><br>Tim, would you mind clarifying this? Which authors have you found to be the most orthodox? What can be said about their lives?<br><br>------<br>It is interesting how some people are &quot;afraid&quot; of the ante-nicene writers, but then turn to... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Ben)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:26:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ One year Bible and quiet times ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Christians are often encouraged to read the Bible on a one year plan.  As I've grown in my understanding of the Scriptures, I have been less motivated to approach my Bible reading in this manner.  Because I want to understand what I'm reading and have a huge affinity for studying doctrine, I rarely read the Bible like this.  <br><br>Am I missing something by not daily reading a couple chapters of the Old Testament, one from the New, a psalm and proverb and then going through a checklist: is... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (postpre1)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:49:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ doctrine and leaders ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Of all the forums on this board, the comments and questions that I would like to make probably relate more to this subject than any other.<br><br>For many Churches today (mainly those where Seminary education is not a requirement for aspiring pastors/elders), it has been my perception that &quot;character development&quot; is pretty much all that is needed to train men to become godly leaders (whether in the family or in the Church).  For example, it's not unusual for younger men who aspire... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:29:50 GMT</pubDate>
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