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			<title><![CDATA[ The Faith of Abraham and Circumcision ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Hi, guys!</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">A question in regards to infant baptism:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> This question isn&#39;t to
ponder any potential link between baptism and jewish circumcision, but obviously, it will indirectly head that way.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The
main question will deal with the argument that we... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:42:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Greek Help? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi Guys,
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Can someone tell if the Greek word for washing in Titus 3:5 is in the middle voice indicating that the washing is being done by the individual?
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<strong>Titus 3:5 ( KJV )</strong> <a name="5"></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><sup>5</sup></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Not by works of
righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:39:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ What do we think of the infant baptizers? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Hello, all!</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I have a question in regards to the churches that practice infant baptism.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span> I have greatly struggled with how to view them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I believe---and I know PFRS confesses---that baptism is the
obedient response to the gospel; an act of faith and... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:34:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Is not Sprinkling the correct Mode of Baptism? ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/1137/t/Is-not-Sprinkling-the-correct-Mode-of-Baptism-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I transcribe this text below from an article and I would like to know your opnion about it. (http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_8.html)
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Thanks.
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Writing to the Hebrews, it would come to them as no surprise to read the author&#39;s words to the effect that &quot;the first tabernacle . . . stood only in
meats and drinks, and divers washings&quot; (<a target="_blank" href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?version=KJV&amp;passage=Heb+9:10">Heb. 9:10</a>, KJV), that is, in... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:36:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ MY SON, GOD IS NOT YOUR GOD ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ OR IS INFANT BAPTISM APOSTOLIC?
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Orthodox Christians agree with the Pristine Faith Community that Baptism is intrinsically and powerfully linked to Baptism. [See my previous post:
&quot;Baptism as an act of God not man&quot;] Put into Western terms, Baptism is the &quot;efficient cause&quot; of our salvation. It is that &quot;external
entity from which the change or the ending of the change first starts.&quot; And it has this power of cause only because of the promise of God, which... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:22:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Chrismation ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p><font face="Helv" size="2">Hello!!</font></p>

<p><font face="Helv" size="2">I was wondering what you all think about (or have studied) in regards to the practice known as &#39;chrismation&#39; i.e. the
anointing with oil to confer the Holy Spirit on a baptized individual. I know Eastern Orthodoxy practices this (and I would guess the Romanists as well). My
understanding is that they take this practice from some of the accounts in Acts where the laying on of hands was present, etc etc, and... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 10:41:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Pentecostal Baptism ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ One of my HUGE hurdles is reconciling and reasoning with pentecostals that baptism in water is baptism in the Spirit. Their main thrust against it is in
Acts...
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Acts 8:14-17 NASB
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(14) Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent them Peter and John,
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(15) who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.
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(16) For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 07:43:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Baptizing Households ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi, guys!  : )
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I have my thoughts on this, but I will hold off until I hear from others:  what do you make of those few instances where whole households were baptized?  (two
instances in Acts and then the household that Paul mentions in his letter to the Corinthians).  And, do you see any connection whatsoever to the
&#39;household&#39; ideal that was present in Israel (when whole families were blessed or whole families were cut off for the actions of the head of the
family)?
<br>... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:53:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ How Soon? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Shouldn&#39;t baptism be almost immedeate upon faith from the heart and not held to a much later date? any thoughts? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:14:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Baptism as an act of God not man ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As a Christ follower who has found the fullness of the Ancient Faith I am excited about your quest to find the faith of the early Church, the living tradition
of the dead.
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<br>
I have a few comments concerning your position on Baptism which actually fascinates me.
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First of all, who would be offended by your position? The only people offended would be those you misrepresented. I believe that you accurately represented the
Baptizimal Doctrine of the Roman Church. But by claiming... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (RyanClose)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:03:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Mark 16:15-16, Real Baptism Or Ritual Baptism ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/1112/t/Mark-16-15-16-Real-Baptism-Or-Ritual-Baptism.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Hello all,
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<br>
First let me say I&#39;m very impressed with the Bible interpretation methodology here at PFRS. I&#39;ve read AT LEAST 60% of the content here. Nowhere on the
web have I seen doctrinal positions supported so thoroughly, and in such an intellectually satisfying way. I consider this site to be a real blessing, an
answer to prayer even. Thanks for all the hard work!
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<br>
Concerning Mark 16:15-16, somewhere, awhile back, I read an argument against the necessity of... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Layman Mike)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:09:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Who can baptize? ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/1100/t/Who-can-baptize-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m not sure if this question has been asked before, I checked the pages of discussion here and could not see it.
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<br>
I am curious as to who can actually baptize someone.  I have always assumed that any believer can baptize someone. 
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<br>
But I am unsure about this situation.... two people who believe in the Gospel and have repented of their sins, but neither of them have been baptized. Would
they be able to baptize each other? I know the Bible doesn&#39;t exactly go into... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (PeaTearGriffin)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:08:54 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Acts 2:38...again ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/376/t/Acts-2-38-again.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I was just surfing the net earlier because I was bored, and I came across the following article.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.watchman.org/reltop/baptism.htm">www.watchman.org/reltop/baptism.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I had to post it because it is a classic example of how people try to circumvent the clear meaning of a scriptural text. I would like to draw attention to several errors the author promulgates.<br><br>1. The beginning of his article is... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Micah)</author>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:37:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The Naaman Syndrome ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/377/t/The-Naaman-Syndrome.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Naaman Syndrome  2 Kings 5<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> 1 Now Naaman, commander of the army of the king of Syria, was a great and honorable man in the eyes of his master, because by him the LORD had given victory to Syria. He was also a mighty man of valor, a leper. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>No higher words of commendation and honor could be applied to a man of Naamans chosen profession  a soldier.  He had risen to the position of commander of the army.  The king held... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Roger)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:21:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Pristine Faith. ]]></title>
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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Charles Baker)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:09:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ New Commentary Article on Mark 16:15-16 ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/375/t/New-Commentary-Article-on-Mark-16-15-16.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I just posted a new article in the PFRS commentary section on Mark 16:15-16. I think the grammar of that passage settles the question decisively whether baptism comes after salvation of before.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pfrs.org/commentary/mark_16_16.html">www.pfrs.org/commentary/mark_16_16.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Tim ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Tim)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:30:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ How do you respond to this? ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/379/t/How-do-you-respond-to-this-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ How do you respond to this article and the following quote? <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>One last thought: If someone maintains that baptism is necessary for salvation, is he adding a work, his own, to the finished work of Christ? If the answer is yes, then that person would be in terrible risk of not being saved. If the answer is no, then why is baptism maintained as being necessary the same way as the Jews maintained that works were... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Nickname)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:48:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ MacPherson article on Baptism and Great Commission ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/381/t/MacPherson-article-on-Baptism-and-Great-Commission.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Hi there,<br><br>I have been studying the issue of baptism recently and have read the articles here at PFRS and at BibleStudying.net.<br><br>I came across this interesting article on baptism and how it relates to the Great Commission, and am wondering if anyone here has any opinions/comments/etc on the article.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.biblestudying.net/baptism8.html">www.biblestudying.net/baptism8.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>cheers! ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (PeaTearGriffin)</author>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:23:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ does an unbaptized child who dies go to hell? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi everyone, I'm new to the board and have read through many of the posts, but Im still left confused. I was born and raised Lutheran and was taught that an unbaptised baby that dies will go to hell. I would appreciate all thoughts on this,<br>thanks! ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:59:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Baptism in the NT - Water, Spirit, Fire?  How can we tell? ]]></title>
			<link>http://thechristiancafe.yuku.com/topic/382/t/Baptism-in-the-NT-Water-Spirit-Fire-How-can-we-tell-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Below I have displayed all of the places in the New Testament that mention the words <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>baptize</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> or <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>baptism.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->  If I omitted any, it was unintentional.  I used Bible Gateway, so that is not the most rigorous approach.  In any case, Im sure I got most if not all of them.  This list could be expanded to include other potential references to baptism that do not use the word itself, but... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Roger)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:22:38 GMT</pubDate>
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