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PeaTearGriffin	great videos	Lead	[-]
Posts: 24 (05/01/08 10:11:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I just watched the most amazing endtime prophecy videos I have seen. They are from this website... http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/ http://66.155.114.80/video/Dsl/5904-E.wmv http://66.155.114.80/video/Dsl/5904-D.wmv They are each about 66MB long and run for about 30 minutes each. They are very intriguing. enjoy! edited to add: here is an article which deals with what was discussed in the first video http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/articledetail.asp?Article_ID=223 Last Edited By: PeaTearGriffin 05/01/08 10:16:26. Edited 1 time.
PeaTearGriffin		#1	[-]
Posts: 25 (05/02/08 13:27:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	For those of you who do not have a fast internet connection or just cannot be bothered watching the video, here is a summary.... There is going to be 4 lunar eclipses in the 2014-2015 period. All of these lunar eclipses fall on the Jewish holidays, Passover and Sukkot (Tabernacles). (Passover is the first of the 7 feasts of Israel, and Sukkot is the 7th). The four lunar eclipses occur on... Passover - April 15 2014 The Feast of Tabernacles - October 8 2014 Passover - April 4 2015 The Feast of Tabernacles - September 28 2015 Also, an interesting wee tidbit is that the year Sept 2014 - Sept 2015 is a Jewish sabbatical year (every 7 years the Jews would have a sabbatical year, much like every 7th day they have the sabbath day). Having 4 lunar eclipses back to back like that is called a tetrad. There are 6 or 7 tetrads that will occur this century. But the only tetrad where all 4 eclipses occur on 4 Jewish holidays is 2014-2015. In the 20th century there were two tetrads where the eclipses all fell on Jewish holidays (the holidays they fell upon were Passover and Sukkot again!). The first occured in the year 1949-50, the year after Israel became a nation! The second occured in 1967-68, just after the Jews recaptured Jerusalem in the 6 day war! Furthermore, there were no tetrads which fell on Jewish holidays throughout the 1500s-1800s. However, a tetrad occurred (on Passover and Sukkot again!) in 1493, which was the the year after Spain kicked out all the Jews. Not only is there four lunar eclipses in 2014-15, but also two solar eclipses. Nisan 1 - March 20 2015 Tishri 1 (Feast of Trumpets) - September 13 2015 These two dates are very important dates in Jewish culture. Nisan 1 marks the beginning of the religious festival cycle. Nisan 1 is the first anniversary of the Exodus, it is also the first time that Moses raised up the tabernacle for God in the wilderness. Six months later after Nisan 1, on Tishri 1, the Jews celebrate Rosh Hashanah (the Feast of Trumpets). And theres even more... This August 1st there will be the first of three partial solar eclipses on Av 1st. But there will also be a partial solar eclipse on Av 1st 2009 as well as Av 1st 2010. Av 1 - August 1 2008 Av 1 - July 22 2009 Av 1 - July 11 2010 About the significance of Av 1st.... there are three weeks from Tammuz 17 - Av 9. These three weeks are called "the dark times." It is a very sorrowful time of the year for Jews. Apparently on Tammuz 17th, Moses came down off the mountain with the 10 commandents but found that the Jews had all started worshipping the golden calf. Many other important things had happened on Av 9th to the Jewish nation. This was the day when the 10 spies bought the bad report to the Jews and they decided not to go into the land God had promised them. Because of this, God sentenced them to wander around the desert for the next forty years until all of that generation had died (except the 2 spies who had bought back the good report). Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple on Av 9th. Then 600 years later when Rome destroyed the temple it was also on Av 9th. All the Jews were kicked out of England in 1290 on Av 9th. All the Jews were kicked out of Spain in 1492 on Av 9th. World War 1 started on Av 9th. Hitler's proclamation to kill all the Jews was on Av 9th. And Israel evacuated the Gaza strip at sunset on Av 9th. And here we have, in the middle of these three sorrowful weeks, a partial soar eclipse, not only for 2008, but also for 2009 & 2010. edited to add.... Here's is the NASA website showing the 4 total eclipses during 2014-2015... http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat/LEdecade2011.html Here's is the NASA website showing the 4 total eclipses during 1967-68.... http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat/LEdecade1961.html Here's is the NASA website showing the 4 total eclipses during 1949-1950.... http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat/LEdecade1941.html Last Edited By: PeaTearGriffin 05/09/08 16:06:01. Edited 1 times.
PeaTearGriffin	Another interesting connection to 2015	#2	[-]
Posts: 28 (05/09/08 16:04:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times. And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, and till the end of the war desolations are determined. Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate." (Dan 9:24-27) For those of you who do not know, Isaac Newton devoted a lot of his time to understanding Biblical prophecy, particularly the prophecies of Daniel. His understanding of the 70 weeks prophecy is quite different from the typical view held today. In the above passage from Daniel, the angel divides the first 483 years into two periods - 7 weeks and 62 weeks (49 years and 434 years respectively). The common view of this passage is to add the 49 years and 434 years to get 483 years and then use that to calculate the time of Jesus' first coming (usually associated with His entering Jerusalem on a donkey a week before His crucifixtion). Apparently though, Isaac Newton said that there is no linguistic basis in the Hebrew for adding the numbers 49 and 434 together (however I am no scholar of Biblical Hebrew so I cannot confirm whether that is true). Isaac Newton believed that the 62 weeks (or 434 years) apply to Christs' First Advent. And that the 7 weeks (49 years) apply to Christs' Second Advent. Both of these two periods of time (the 434 years and 49 years) begin from the "going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem." On June 7th, 1967, the Jews captured Jerusalem and the Temple Mount in what we know as the 6-day war. If you use that date and then proceed 49 Biblical years forward (49 * 360 = 17640), you land on the date September 23, 2015, which is the day when the "Day of Atonement" (Yom Kippur) is held that year. (Here is a link to the dates of the Jewish holidays through till 2017... http://world.std.com/~reinhold/jewishholidays.txt ). Just thought that it was interesting as it also ties in with the eclipses in 2015. Could something significant dealing with Israel happen that year? Only time will tell I guess edited to add... 1967 June 7 = 23 days July = 31 days Aug = 31 Sept = 30 Oct = 31 Nov = 30 Dec = 31 Total = 207 days 1968 = 366 days 1969 = 365 1970 = 365 1971 = 365 1972 = 366 1973 = 365 1974 = 365 1975 = 365 1976 = 366 1977 = 365 1978 = 365 1979 = 365 1980 = 366 1981 = 365 1982 = 365 1983 = 365 1984 = 366 1985 = 365 1986 = 365 1987 = 365 1988 = 366 1989 = 365 1990 = 365 1991 = 365 1992 = 366 1993 = 365 1994 = 365 1995 = 365 1996 = 366 1997 = 365 1998 = 365 1999 = 365 2000 = 366 2001 = 365 2002 = 365 2003 = 365 2004 = 366 2005 = 365 2006 = 365 2007 = 365 2008 = 366 2009 = 365 2010 = 365 2011 = 365 2012 = 366 2013 = 365 2014 = 3655 so far all these days add together to give us 17374 days 17640 - 17374 = 266 days left 2015 Jan = 31 Feb = 28 Mar = 31 Apr = 30 May = 31 Jun = 30 July = 31 Aug = 31 total = 243 days which leaves 23 days left beginning Sept 1 so 49 Biblical years is 49 * 360 = 17640 days 17640 days from June 7th, 1967 gives us Sept 23 2015 which is Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Last Edited By: PeaTearGriffin 05/09/08 21:55:11. Edited 6 times.
crazy mark	fantastic	#3	[-]
Posts: 237 (05/24/08 00:08:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Peter, I think what you have posted is absolutely phenomenal. Another website I stumbled across with similar information is www.escapeallthesethings.com . This fellow wants money to share his "insight" and I am not ready to do so. I found this website as a link on The Jerusalem Post homepage. It seems both these sites (the one you posted and the one I just did) may be "borrowing" from the Jewish interpretations of the End Times. If so, then I am impressed and feel ever more convicted to believe the Jews truly are the people of God. If these time tables are true, then all revolves around the Jews as I have suspected over the last few years. My son's naval ship stopped by Israel for a port-call and he said he was shocked at the secularism he found there. I can see how the Two Witnesses will be used to call Israel into repentence. The guy at the website I posted seems to be saying an asteroid will just about wipe us out and that NASA is not being forthcoming about it. I just skimmed over his literature so I could surely be mistaken. Incredibly, it all makes sense that all these things are tied to the Jewish Feasts. Do you think it could all be so plainly laid out before us? Peace, Mark
PeaTearGriffin		#4	[-]
Posts: 35 (08/13/08 11:30:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A new discovery relating to the original post of this thread, it is from a thread at the Fulfilled Prophec forums (Herb's site) http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=41826&start=0 My name is Joshua Elsom, I am an acquaintance of Mark Biltz and on occasion attend his congregation. I am writing to tell you about a very recent discovery I have made. It is largely related to the discoveries made by Pastor Biltz. Let me explain; as you know Pastor Biltz' discoveries have been based primarily on two scriptures, Joel 2 and Daniel 9. He builds his case off of Issac Newton's* suggestion that the divided 69 weeks (62 weeks/7 weeks) were representative of Christ's first and second coming, respectively. Pastor Biltz applies the 7 weeks to the recapturing of Jerusalem in 1967. This is where he came up with the date September 23, 2015. This is, I think, a very interesting fact; especially considering that September 23, 2015 is Yom Kippur. While the preceding does show possible evidence for Christ's return in 2015, I have found something that I believe might clinch it. Over the years as I have studied the prophecies of Daniel chapter 9, I have never understood nor heard a compelling explanation of why Gabriel would have divided the 69 weeks up. I even emailed Pastor Biltz to ask him what he thought. He suggested a guess, that there could have been possible double fulfillments of the prophecy back then. Needless to say this has remained a monkey on my back. Especially regarding Pastor Biltz' suggestion that the 7 weeks are related to Jerusalem in 1967. Tuesday (July 15th) I had an epiphany; I thought if God is using the 7 weeks of Daniel, applied to June 7, 1967, to mark his second coming then there must be some relevant event occurring 62 weeks prior to 1967. So I did the quick math and came up with a date of 1538. I then did a search on Google for "Jerusalem 1538" and could hardly believe my eyes. The very first hit that came up was a Wikipedia article that spoke of an Ottoman Sultan named Suleiman the Magnificent. Do you know what Suleiman did between 1535-1541? He rebuilt the walls of Jerusalem! That means the very event that started the clock turning for Jesus' 1st coming also started the clock for His 2nd! The Holy Spirit, I believe, has led me to the discovery of why Gabriel split the 69 weeks. It was done to help us recognize these last days. August 25th, 1539 (Rebuilding of the wall) + 62 weeks = June 7, 1967 (Capture of Jerusalem) June 7th, 1967 (Jerusalem becomes the capitol of Israel for the first time in 1900 years) + 7 weeks = September 23th, 2015 (Yom Kippur) September 23th, 2015 (The return of King Jesus) Eclipses: I also considered that if there were eclipses marking the Feast days in 2014/15 then there may be something going on in 1539. There were 4 solar and 5 lunar eclipses occurring over the years 1539/40. Four of these eclipses, I believe, are very significant. April 3rd, 1539 there was a lunar eclipse that fell on Passover; April 27th, 1539 there was a lunar eclipse that fell on the Feast of Tabernacles; March 22, 1540 there was a lunar eclipse that fell on Passover; September 16th, 1540 there was a lunar eclipse that fell on the Feast of Tabernacles. Now when you lay this information next to Mark Biltz' discoveries you see some striking similarities. 1539 Apr 03 = (Passover) - 2014 Apr 15 = (Passover) 1539 Sep 27 = (Feast of Tabernacles) - 2014 Oct 8 = (Feast of Tabernacles) 1540 Mar 22 = (Passover) - 2015 Apr 4 = (Passover) 1540 Sep 16 = (Feast of Tabernacles) - 2015 Sep 28 = (Feast of Tabernacles) I think this is fascinating and I also believe that it supports and confirms what Pastor Biltz has discovered. Other issues to consider: Concerning Suleiman the Magnificent it is curious that his name is a transliteration of Solomon. The reason I find this as a point of interest is that King Solomon was the first person who initiated the construction of a major wall around Jerusalem. If you look at August 25th, 1539 on the Hebrew calendar you will find that it fell between Elul 11th and Elul 12th. To this point in my research I have yet to find any relevant historical events occurring on Elul 11th or 12th in Jewish history. However, I do have one suggestion that might make this period at least interesting. Nehemiah 6:15 says that the wall of Jerusalem was completed by Nehemiah on Elul 25th and we later see that it was completed just prior to the Feast of Tabernacles.* August 25th, 1539 falls 14 days from Elul 25th and 32 days before the Feast of Tabernacles. So it is at least in the range of possibility that August 25th, 1539 may mark some significant date that falls around the completion of the wall of Nehemiah. As of this point I do not have access to a Hebrew calender that provides dates farther back then 2000 years. It is possible then that the 11th or 12th day of Elul in 445 BC might reveal something. In conclusion, I pray that this new information will serve as a catalyst to further the discoveries of Mark Biltz, upon whose shoulders and work I stand. I do make one request; that is, if you so choose to make these latest discoveries known to the public I ask that you first contact Mark Biltz. I have spoken to Pastor Biltz about what I have found and have shared in detail all of my research. However, upon writing this email I have yet to receive a confirmation of my findings by him. This, I am certain, is due to his overwhelmed inbox and many speaking engagements. While I do trust my own research, I also deeply respect and trust Pastor Biltz' unparalleled understanding of these matters. If this were not such a time sensitive issue I would wait for his blessing. However, I find myself between a rock and a hard place. I am holding on to some very important information that needs to be disseminated very quickly and I believe you are one man that can get it done. Thank you for your consideration of this email and God Bless! Even so come Lord Jesus! Joshua Elsom "Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand. FOOTNOTES: Isaac Newton was incorrect in his assumption. We know that the actual elapsed time was the full 69 weeks. (The Coming Prince, Sir Robert Anderson) The proper mathematical method delivers a date of August 25th, 1539. August 25th, 1539 + 62 weeks (156,235 days) = June 7, 1967 June 7, 1967 + 7 weeks (17645 days) = September 23, 2015 August 25th, 1539 + 69 weeks (173,880 days) = September 28, 2015 (Yom Kippur) I found a more broad range of build dates for the wall. I found dates ranging from 1535 - 1541 for reconstruction. The broadest range was from 1537-1541. However, this quote from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs is perhaps the most authoritative I found, "The Jaffa Gate bears the inscription of the sultan Suleiman, who ordered its construction in 1538/9 (corresponding to the Muslim year 945). The Jaffa Gate is the best known and busiest of Jerusalem's gates. It was built facing west, in the direction of the port of Jaffa." Solar Eclipses 1539-1540 1539 Apr 18 = Nissan 30 (Rosh Chodesh 1 / 15th day of the Omer) - Iyyar 1 ( Rosh Chodesh 2 / 16th day of the Omer) 1539 Oct 12 = Tishrei 30 (Rosh Chodesh 1) - Cheshvan 1 (Rosh Chodesh 2) 1540 Apr 07 = Nissan 30 (Rosh Chodesh 1) - Iyyar 1 (Rosh Chodesh 2) 1540 Sep 30 = Tishrei 29 (nothing showing) - Tishrei 30 (Rosh Chodeh 1) Lunar Eclipses 1539-1540 1539 Apr 03 = Nissan 15 (Pesach) - Nissan 16 (Chol Hamoed 1 - 1st day of the Omer) 1539 Sep 27 = Tishrei 15 (Succot) - Tishrei 16 (Chol Homoed 1) 1539 Oct 27 = Cheshvan 8 (nothing showing) - Cheshvan 9 (nothing showing) 1540 Mar 22 = Nissan 14 (Erev Pesach / Fast of first born) - Nissan 15 (Pesach) 1540 Sep 16 = Tishrei 16 (Succot) - Tishrei 17 (Chol Hamoed 1) Solar Eclipses 2014-2015 2014 Apr 29 = Nissan 29 (Yom Kippur Katan/14th day of the Omer)- Nissan 30(Rosh Chodesh 1/15th day of the Omer) 2014 Oct 23 = Cheshvan 29(nothing showing) - Cheshvan 30(Rosh Chodesh 1) 2015 Mar 20 = Adar 29(nothing showing) - Nissan 1(New Year on the Hebrew calander) 2015 Sep 13= Elul29 (Erev Rosh Hashanah) - Tishrei 1(Rosh Hashanah) Lunar Eclipses 2014-2015 2014 Apr 15 = Nissan 14 (Pesach) - Nissan 15 (Chol Hamoed 1) 2014 Oct 08 = Tishrei 14 (Erev Succot) - Tishrei 15 (Succot) 2015 Apr 04 = Nissan 15 (Pesach) - Nissan 16 (Chol Hamoed1) 2015 Sep 23 = Tishrei 15 (Succot) - Tishrei 16 (Chol Hamoed1) 1 Kings 3:1, 1 Kings 9:15 Nehemiah 8:13-18
FredOrtegren	Interview with Mark Biltz	#5	[-]
Posts: 113 (09/27/08 02:53:11) PFRS Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This signs which Mark Biltz do actualize, could in my view be very significant. Time to watch up! At the evening the 29 th of September are the last trumpet or Shofar blowing in the Feast of Trumpets and the Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year day, starting the new seven years Sabbatical week which will end with this tetrad of blood Moons happening on significant Jewish feasts. Here in this recent interview from Maranatha Chapel you can listen more to what Mark Biltz have to say about this. Interesting is also that many of they who have been strongly impressed of Biltz teaching are pretribbers who then may believe the rapture will happen before this coming Sabbatical Week, starting at this Monday evening. How will they react when there will not be any rapture then? http://www.maranathachape...=1179&section=archive Shalom! Fred Last Edited By: FredOrtegren 09/27/08 14:08:21. Edited 1 times.
Tim		#6	[-]
Posts: 1531 (09/27/08 05:10:47) Guest Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I hate to be the "party - pooper" here, but... The great signs in the heavens are not normal eclipses, IMO. The darkening of the sun and moon, described in the Olivet Discourse, are further described in the Great Temple Discourse. Jesus said "there will be fearful sights* and great signs from heaven"* (Luke 21:11). When was the last time people were afraid of a natural eclipse? He went on to say, "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; , men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for [because] the powers of the heavens will be shaken." (v. 25-26). Eclipses simply do not strike fear into the hearts of men. The signs that will precede Jesus' coming will be cataclysmic, and people will think that the cosmos is coming to a violent end. Regarding the 69 weeks being divided into 7 + 62, the solution is simple. By distinguishing the first 49 years, Daniel was being told how the Jubilee year cycle fits into the equasion. The bottom line is that the year of Jesus' coming will be at the beginning of the 10th Jubilee year (of the 70 weeks). In fact, the Jubilee does not begin on the first day of the year, but on Yom Kippur. By marking off the first 49 years, Daniel was being told that the second coming and resurrection will be on Yom Kippur, on the first day of the 10th Jubilee. Jubilee is a prophetic picture of Christ's Kingdom, when "liberty" is proclaimed for Israel. The "Last Trumpet" is is the Jubilee trumpet, sounded 10 days after the "Feast of Trumpets" (but only once every 49 years). Lev 25:8-13 9 Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land. 10 And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family. 11 That fiftieth year shall be a Jubilee to you; in it you shall neither sow nor reap what grows of its own accord, nor gather the grapes of your untended vine. 12 For it is the Jubilee; it shall be holy to you; you shall eat its produce from the field. 13'In this Year of Jubilee, each of you shall return to his possession. The Jubilee was never kept by Israel. There is therefore NO date by which the Jubile cycle can be calculated. However, it was given to Daniel in the 70 week prophecy. Start counting when the 69 weeks begins, at the command of Artaxerxes to rebuild Jerusalem. After every 49 years there is a Jubilee. Keep in mind that the "50th year" does interrupt the Sabbatical year cycle. So, over time the Jubilee does not occur every 50 years, but every 49 years. So, the Jubile year is both the "50th" year (year after the 7th Sabbatical year) and also the first year of the new cycle. Tim Last Edited By: Tim 09/27/08 05:30:10. Edited 3 times.
FredOrtegren		#7	[-]
Posts: 114 (10/03/08 14:48:41) PFRS Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well the day of the feast of Trumpets has past and no rapture seems to have happened yet. Not then strange too see this pretrib believing brother to be a bit confused. He seems now to put his hope in a rapture before or on the feast of Yom Kippur! http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/ Shalom! Fred
Joel Tamburo		#8	[-]
Posts: 106 (10/04/08 21:17:21) PFRS Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This is what happens when you don't interpret Scripture in a consistent grammatical-historical manner. In reality, we will not be able to establish the date of the return of Christ until we see the Abomination of Desolation occur (per Matthew 24 with reference by Jesus back to Daniel). When we see it, we then know from Scripture how many says remain: Daniel 12:11: 11"And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. I little over 3.5 years.
PeaTearGriffin		#9	[-]
Posts: 48 (10/05/08 09:11:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	FredOrtegren wrote: Well the day of the feast of Trumpets has past and no rapture seems to have happened yet. Not then strange too see this pretrib believing brother to be a bit confused. He seems now to put his hope in a rapture before or on the feast of Yom Kippur! http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/ Shalom! Fred Yeah, I read that some of the pre-tribbers who were expecting to be raptured on Rosh Hashana have now set their eyes on the Feast of Ingathering. Just to clarify, when I made the original post of this thread, I was never advocating a pre-trib rapture (because I am post-trib), but I thought that the eclipses thing was interesting though. In reality, we will not be able to establish the date of the return of Christ until we see the Abomination of Desolation occur (per Matthew 24 with reference by Jesus back to Daniel). When we see it, we then know from Scripture how many says remain: Daniel 12:11: 11"And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. I little over 3.5 years. I've always suspected that we will probably not even notice the confirming of the covenant when it actually occurs, because neither Jesus nor Paul pointed to it as a signpost to watch for. Instead they both pointed to what occurs 3.5 years later, which Jesus calls "the abomnination of desolation," and what Paul describes as "he who sits in the temple of God proclaiming himself as God." Although just to point out, something interesting did occur over Rosh Hashana... Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas agreed that the recent peace offer made by Ehud Olmert (Israeli Prime Minister) was good enough to be signed (although they didn't sign it AFAIK). This was done on October 1st (I think) which was the 2nd day of Rosh Hashanah (which is strange, cause I always thought Rosh Hashana was a 1 day holiday but my Jewish Calendar has it at 2 days).
jdpro		#10	[-]
Posts: 444 (10/08/08 15:06:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Although just to point out, something interesting did occur over Rosh Hashana... Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas agreed that the recent peace offer made by Ehud Olmert (Israeli Prime Minister) was good enough to be signed (although they didn't sign it AFAIK). This was done on October 1st (I think) which was the 2nd day of Rosh Hashanah (which is strange, cause I always thought Rosh Hashana was a 1 day holiday but my Jewish Calendar has it at 2 days). Do you happen to have a link to more information about this?
PeaTearGriffin		#11	[-]
Posts: 51 (10/08/08 17:08:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	jdpro wrote: Although just to point out, something interesting did occur over Rosh Hashana... Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas agreed that the recent peace offer made by Ehud Olmert (Israeli Prime Minister) was good enough to be signed (although they didn't sign it AFAIK). This was done on October 1st (I think) which was the 2nd day of Rosh Hashanah (which is strange, cause I always thought Rosh Hashana was a 1 day holiday but my Jewish Calendar has it at 2 days). Do you happen to have a link to more information about this? http://www.israeltoday.co...x?tabid=178&nid=17285 http://www.ynetnews.com/a.../0,7340,L-3604251,00.html
FredOrtegren		#12	[-]
Posts: 115 (11/03/08 12:50:17) PFRS Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Interesting news today from Al-Jazeerah. If we really are in the 70th week od Daniel since the Feast of Trumpets this year, the Temple has to be biulst rather soon, and the plan for it would be ready. http://www.ccun.org/News/...er%20Al-Aqsa%20Mosque.htm Jerusalem researcher, Ibrahim Al-Fani, uncovers Israeli plans to build temple over Al-Aqsa Mosque Date: 03 / 11 / 2008 Time: 14:04 Jerusalem - Ma'an - Disturbing long range plans for the Old City of Jerusalem were obtained by Palestinian archaeologist and researcher Dr Ibrahim Al-Fani, who said the plans were drafted by the Israel Antiquities Authority, and include the demolition of the holy Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Marwani mosque (Solomon's stables) beneath the building. Al-Fani showed the plans to Ma'an's Jerusalem correspondent, and explained how architectural designs imagine the construction of a Jewish Temple and Palace overtop of the ruins of Al-Aqsa Mosque. The series of designs is titled the "Comprehensive Strategic Plan," and is divided into two possible routes. "Plan A" outlines the architectural and archaeological plans in the eventuality that Israel fails to demolish the Al-Aqsa Mosque. The plan involves opening up the Fatimi Halls, which are located under the Al-Aqsa Mosque. The halls would be turned into a Jewish Temple, and construction would gradually move to the upper part of the compound, taking over space in Al-Aqsa Mosque. "Plan B" would see the demolition of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the construction of a Jewish "Royal Palace" on the same site, which Muslims believe was the spot from which the Prophet Muhammad started his journey into the heavens. Asked why Israel would choose to target the Dome of the Rock, which is not a holy site in Judaism, Dr Al-Fani explained that "under the spot where the golden dome stands, according to Judaism, there is an exposed piece of bedrock of what they call Mount Moriah- metaphysically known as Even Ishtiah which is a Hebrew term meaning "drinking stone." Judaism says that the world is spiritually nourished from this spot…the stone is the center of the Universe." "From the earliest period of Jewish history," continued Al-Fani, "the Patriarchs of the Jewish people recognized the tremendous spiritual power of Mount Moriah. This is where Abraham, sensing God's presence, went up to offer Isaac -according to the Bible, and Isma'il according to the Qur'an - as a sacrifice." Dr Al-Fani is director of the Jerusalem foundation for Research and Documentation. Maranatha! Fred
FredOrtegren	Revival at the Temple Mounth	#13	[-]
Posts: 116 (11/05/08 15:24:57) PFRS Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	For the first time since the destruction of the Temple the Jews have celebrated the biblical ceremony of Hakhel on the Temple Mount! Take a look at this and watch the video. http://www.templeinstitute.org/events.htm http://www.templeinstitut...the-temple-mount-5769.htm 2000 Years of Silence Come to an End: Hakhel Ceremony is Performed on the Temple Mount While the nations of the world are being rocked by financial turbulence and meteorological volatility, in the holy city of Jerusalem history is being written with a steady hand amidst increasing signs that the long awaited redemption is at last drawing near. Wednesday, October 15th, the first day of Chol Hamoed, (1st day of the intermediate days of Sukkot), the designated day for the biblically commanded Hakhel ceremony: "'At the end of [every] seven years, at an appointed time, in the Festival of Sukkot, [after] the sabbatical year, when all Israel comes to appear before HaShem, your G-d, in the place He will choose you shall read this Torah before all Israel, in their ears.'" (Deuteronomy 31:10) After months of quiet but intensive behind the scenes meetings with Israel's Internal Security Minister, top Jerusalem police officials, members of Israel's Knesset, and relevant parliamentary committees, (all the tireless effort of Yehudah Glick the Temple Institute's Director), word went out across the length and the breadth of the land of Israel that a Hakhel ceremony would be taking place on Biblical schedule upon the Temple Mount. The campaign was conducted without fanfare and with no publicity. Years of experience have taught that when word of such plans are picked up by the media hostile elements soon threaten violence, and the police, suffering from cold feet, back down from their commitment. People interested in participating in this once-in-seven-years mitzvah, (which in accordance with halachah - Jewish law - requires a ritual immersion prior to ascending), were asked to register in advance with the Temple Institute for the purpose of expediting the police security arrangements at the Moghrabi Gate entrance to the Temple Mount. Two aliyot (ascents) were scheduled, one at 7:30 AM and a second ascent at 12:30 PM to accommodate those arriving from afar. An unprecedented four hundred Jews showed up at 7:30 AM and were ushered onto the Temple Mount. This was the largest gathering of Jews on the Temple Mount at one time since its liberation from the Moslems in 1967 - a true Hakhel, (literally, assembly). Once on the Mount the group was, with the prior consent of the police, able to read aloud the prescribed Hakhel ceremony passages from the book of Deuteronomy. Both the size of the assembly and the public Torah service that took place were unprecedented milestones in the ongoing efforts to spiritually liberate the Temple Mount from Moslem oppression. History was made. Already well before 12:00 noon people began gathering again at the foot of the Moghrabi Gate ramp in anticipation of the 12:30 PM ascent to the Mount. The excitement was palpable as the line grew longer and longer. Men, women and entire families, some with infants in carriages, from towns on Israel's northernmost border with Lebanon, from the Negev, Israel's southern desert, from the Galilee, Haifa, the coastal cities, and, of course, from the tens of cites and towns of Judea and Samaria, had all answered the call made out by Moses 3,500 years ago to assemble in this spot and at this time. The line awaiting entrance to the Temple Mount was longer than the line of Sukkot celebrants awaiting entry to the Western Wall plaza, a phenomenon never before witnessed. At last the police began admitting people to the Mount. Surely not anticipating such numbers, woefully undermanned, and sadly insensitive to the electricity in the air and the grandeur of the historical moment, the police security check performed on every individual going up was devastatingly slow. Twelve o'clock turned to one o'clock and still the majority of participants had not completed the security check. At one thirty PM the police abruptly announced that no more people would be admitted. The reason stated? At 1:30 PM each day the Moslem Wakf, which was granted custodianship of the Mount by the state of Israel, shuts the gates to non-Moslems. Two hundred people had passed through security and were already on the Mount, performing the Hakhel. More than five hundred were left below. People pleaded with the police to allow them to complete the purpose of their pilgrimage to Jerusalem, The Hakhel organizers entreated the police to allow the group just five minutes on the Temple Mount to quickly read out the required biblical verses, after which they would quietly leave. The police refused. The would-be Hakhel participants stood their ground. Desperate phone calls were made to higher ranking police officials, asking them to intervene to allow the worshippers entry to the Mount. The police bottom line was predictable as it was pathetic: "The Wakf rules the Mount." Exceptions to accommodate Jews trying to peacefully carry out a once-in-seven-years 3,500 year old Biblical injunction was out of the question. The standoff continued for another twenty tense minutes, until suddenly, in a moment of panic, the police brought in re-enforcements who violently pushed the Jews back from the Moghrabi Gate ramp. Despite the bitter disappointment of all who couldn't make it to the Mount, (and this included Rabbi Chaim Richman and Yitzchak Reuven of the Temple Institute), the Hakhel gathering was unprecedented both in the numbers of Jews who did succeed in gathering on the Mount, (over six hundred), and in the number of Jews who arrived who weren't allowed on the Mount, (over five hundred). The recitation of Biblical verses out loud on the Mount with the express consent of the police was also a precedent that will no doubt prove extremely valuable in our ongoing efforts to be able to worship with complete freedom on the Mount. But most importantly, perhaps, we witnessed for ourselves the indefatigable spirit of the Jewish people. Our numbers will only continue to grow, our effort will be redoubled: Jewish worship on the Temple Mount is becoming a reality. Shalom! Fred

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